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Paul Elliott's avatar

JS8Call - Updates

> I had no idea that JS8Call development had stagnated for so long. In the News page,

> the latest update is:

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>JS8Call Version 2.1 Released

>Dec 23, 2019

It's not as stagnant as you might think. That News page hasn't been updated, but Jordan's GitHub has been updated as recently as a few weeks ago. This used to be on bitbucket, but has moved to GitHub: https://github.com/js8call/js8call

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I understand your frustration with M17's lack of presence at Hamvention. I was a really big supporter of M17. I am now incredibly frustrated by the project.

The merits of M17 are undeniable. But, at this point there is only one implementation of M17 in a radio...even though MMDVM has had M17 support since the early stages of the project. That one (ok two models of one radio) is not a good implementation in my mind.

The decision to use OpenRTX instead of incorporating M17 into the radio's firmware is frustrating. It removes all the features of the radio, for a long time it wouldn't even remember the VFO frequency. Additionally, there was no support for memory channels or CPS. Hopefully this has changed.

I know that you can switch between the factory firmware and OpenRTX, but that doesn't make a great experience. Why can't I just move between analog, DMR, and M17 channels?

I purchased Module17. I had great hopes, but the audio is not very good. There are chirps and pops that make it hard to listen to conversations. One of the developers even commented about needing to go back and work on the Module17 code to improve audio. Has that happened? Not sure, because I lost interest after a year.

I also purchased an MD-380 and converted it. Only to find out this radio has multiple versions of the motherboard and they don't all work the same when it comes to M17. I could not get it to key up a hotspot, then I found out about this know issue. Turned off again.

In my mind, not having a good, affordable, radio has turned a lot of people off. At one point, there was a video posted showing how M17 worked on the Lilygo T-TWR, a $60 radio. If this was brought to completion I think a lot of people would jump on M17...just because of the price point. I even purchased one of these in anticipation...but it never materialized.

I think the M17 Foundation is going to be hard pressed for donations, except by true believers. There have been way too many projects that have almost come to life, OpenHT, Micro17, and RRU. I think the M17 team needs to stop experimenting with new designs and push something good across the finish line. My personal vote is to get the T-TWR or OpenHT design working. They could also work with ComJot to get M17 added to their radio software...this open-source radio already supports analog and DMR, having a third mode would be great for both ComJot and M17.

I keep my eye on M17, hoping something great happens. But, I think the team really needs to focus on the one affordable and functional radio before people are going to get excited about M17 and start making donations.

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